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Zhao Xintong in April 2025
Zhao Xintong

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This page contains a section for each day and a sub-section for each nomination. To see the size and title of each section, please expand the following section size summary.


May 6

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Politics and elections

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May 5

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Armed conflicts and attacks

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RD: James Baker

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Article: James Baker (musician) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Billboard, Rolling Stone Australia
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 240F:7A:6253:1:550D:65B1:47CA:2B88 (talk) 08:15, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2025 World Snooker Championship

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Proposed image
Article: 2025 World Snooker Championship (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Zhao Xintong (pictured) defeats Mark Williams to win the World Snooker Championship. (Post)
Credits:

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

 Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 19:37, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Use the 2016 image Current one seems like something he might put up on Facebook. Bremps... 01:04, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That's when he was a teenager. Stephen 02:53, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

May 4

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(Closed) Romanian presidential election

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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


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Article: 2025 Romanian presidential election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In the Romanian presidential election, the leader of the AUR party George Simion (pictured) wins the 1st round but faces a runoff against the independent candidate Nicușor Dan. (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian, AP News
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
Nominator's comments: Article needs a lot of work and a lot more prose, especially on results, aftermath, and the candidates. Not sure what the precedent is for 2-round elections is but this is global headlines nonetheless in what will likely be a knife edge runoff. Abcmaxx (talk) 13:27, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose only the results of the second round are posted. _-_Alsor (talk) 13:33, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
comment shouldnt the other righoid candidate who got banned from the election due to Russia be mentioned somehow? 5.44.170.181 (talk) 13:36, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. This is just the first round. We post when the second round concludes. --Grnrchst (talk) 17:35, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
oppose till 2nd round. Scuba 17:56, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose posting a preliminary election result, support posting the PM's resignation when a) it happens and b) the article is properly updated. Bremps... 18:45, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support only after May 18 run-off We can post the result of presidential election once second round official result is revealed on May 18 after election runoff vote. Given that in the country use runoff system and no candidates had more than 50% of votes, the blurb needs to be on hold until after May 18 runoff election results. Regarding the resignation of PM, i Support them to be included if the blurb was updated, as long as it didn't prematurely coincided with posting of first round election results. 103.111.102.118 (talk) 19:11, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose we need to wait until round 2. Secretlondon (talk) 19:23, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Wait until Round 2. History6042😊 (Contact me) 20:11, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Nicaragua leaves UNESCO

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Articles: Freedom of the press in Nicaragua (talk · history · tag) and Member states of UNESCO (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Nicaragua announces its withdrawal from UNESCO in protest after La Prensa, opposition newspaper to Nicaraguan dictatorship, wins the UNESCO/Guillermo Cano World Press Freedom Prize. (Post)
News source(s): The Associated Press, AFP
Credits:

Article needs updating

 UCinternational (talk) 04:12, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support Very clearly important. Duly signed, WaltClipper -(talk) 12:40, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. It may be rare, but it's of very little importance or significance.  — Amakuru (talk) 13:46, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose When the debate is over importance, we should gauge not based on personal opinion but rather whether it is being picked up by reliable sources and covered in depth. In this case, there is no significant coverage from major outlets like the NYT, BBC, CBC, etc. There is really only a hodgepodge of miscellaneous articles from the AP, some European news sources, and one article in the Toronto Star. FlipandFlopped 15:28, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: K. V. Rabiya

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Article: K. V. Rabiya (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Hindu
Credits:
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: literacy advocate Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 18:09, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support Except for the quotes section (which I removed) that can be moved to the sister project, this seems whole and well-cited enough. Writing is a little bit sentimental but it's not major enough to stop posting. Bremps... 18:47, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Ghulam Mohammad Vastanvi

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Article: Ghulam Mohammad Vastanvi (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): United News of India, The Indian Express
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Noted Educational reformer Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 17:46, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support: Famous Indian Islamic scholar and educationist. Khaatir (talk) 06:46, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Hsu Li-nung

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Article: Hsu Li-nung (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): China Daily Focus Taiwan
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Fixer88 (talk) 16:57, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Julia Alexander

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Article: Julia Alexander (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Baltimore Sun
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former director of public art museum in eastern U.S. Bridget (talk) 17:05, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support, everything looks fully cited, article is updated and long enough. ForsythiaJo (talk) 02:26, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

May 3

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RD: Robert A. G. Monks

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Article: Robert A. G. Monks (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Washington Post
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Death announced 3 May. Thriley (talk) 17:29, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2025 Kentucky Derby

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Article: 2025 Kentucky Derby (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In horse racing, Sovereignty, ridden by Junior Alvarado, wins the Kentucky Derby. (Post)
News source(s): NBC Sports
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: The article is a little bit stubby at this point. Moraljaya67 (talk) 01:44, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Singaporean general election

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Article: 2025 Singaporean general election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In the Singaporean general election, the People's Action Party, led by Lawrence Wong (pictured), retains a supermajority of seats. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The People's Action Party, led by Lawrence Wong (pictured), wins a supermajority of seats in the Singaporean general election.
Alternative blurb II: ​ In Singapore, the People's Action Party, led by Prime Minister Lawrence Wong (pictured), wins a supermajority of seats in the general election.
News source(s): CNA SCMP
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Results are still coming in as of the time of writing, but the outcome is a foregone conclusion. =JaventheAldericky= (Would you like to talk to me?) 16:28, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Marked ready. History6042😊 (Contact me) 13:55, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support Alt II Congrats to the PAP winning for the 15th time in a row. Scuba 14:40, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Australian federal election

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Article: 2025 Australian federal election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Australian Labor Party, led by Prime Minister, Anthony Albanese (pictured), wins the most seats in the federal election. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The Australian Labor Party, led by the Prime Minister of Australia, Anthony Albanese (pictured), is returned to government at the Australian federal election.
Alternative blurb II: ​ The Australian Labor Party, led by the Prime Minister of Australia, Anthony Albanese (pictured), wins the majority of seats in the Australian federal election.
Alternative blurb III: ​ In Australia, the Labor Party, led by the Prime Minister Anthony Albanese (pictured), wins the most seats in the federal election.
Alternative blurb IV: ​ In Australia, the Labor Party, led by the Prime Minister Anthony Albanese (pictured), is returned to government with a majority of seats after a federal election.
News source(s): [1]
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

 Happily888 (talk) 10:30, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support first blurb, as matches the recent Canadian blurb, although I would prefer mentioning them managing a majority V. L. Mastikosa (talk) 11:44, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support alt blurb 2, although would prefer a blurb that cleans up wording V. L. Mastikosa (talk) 12:19, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support alt blurb 3 V. L. Mastikosa (talk) 16:11, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support altblurb 2 as the initial blurb suggests a plurality win and therefore minority government, when all the major media is projecting a majority government. Melmann 11:51, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support a slightly reworded altblurb2 (something to the effect of The Australian Labor Party, led by prime minister Anthony Albanese (pictured), wins the majority of seats in the Australian federal election. The word "Australia(n)" does not have to be included three times haha. Loytra (talk) 12:49, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support altblurb3, the Australian version of the Canadian one. ArionStar (talk) 13:40, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support altblurb3 for consistency with the Canadian blurb. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 13:53, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
In Canada, the Liberals did not get a majority, but in Australia Labor did. That should be pointed out. 331dot (talk) 14:03, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not quite the same as the Canadian Labour Party won a plurality of seats, while the Australian Labor Party seems to be on track to win a majority of seats. Prince Of Iso (talk) 14:05, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Correction to my prior reply, I meant Canadian Liberal Party, not Labour Party Prince Of Iso (talk) 14:14, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support altblurb2 BBC's even calling it a "landslide" now. Other blurbs would be more appropriate in a plurality result. Yo.dazo (talk) 14:35, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support alt 3. Scuba 14:49, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support altblurb 2, because as @331dot pointed out, the Australian election already resulted in a majority even in the current unfinished vote counting, not a plularity minority like the Canadian election. Additionally, lean wait for atleast 2-3 hours just for the final seat results, even if it's just a marginal result for Labor's majority seat number. SymphonyWizard72 (talk) 15:35, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support as this is a major national election. I'd prefer altblurb 2 but any of them are fine. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 15:54, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Chorchapu FYI this is on the recurring events list so it doesn't require support on the merits. 331dot (talk) 16:15, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, sorry. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 17:23, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The article looks to be in good shape, it's long enough and has a good amount of prose. Could use some more info in the results section, though. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 17:26, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Sajid Mir

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Article: Sajid Mir (politician) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): GNN NewsDaily Pakistan
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Fahads1982talk/contrib 09:10, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wait A bit short. Bremps... 02:45, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

May 2

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RD: Jim Dent

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Article: Jim Dent (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): PGA Tour
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Looks in decent shape. Updated significantly in recent days. Natg 19 (talk) 05:16, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wait until the professional wins section is cited. Then good to go. Bremps... 01:06, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Dara Birnbaum

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Article: Dara Birnbaum (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ARTnews
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American video and installation artist. 240F:7A:6253:1:E51C:551C:DA17:2A61 (talk) 13:05, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: George Ryan

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Article: George Ryan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Chicago Tribune
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former Governor of Illinois. 240F:7A:6253:1:801B:A5BD:237A:E9D2 (talk) 06:47, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

May 1

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RD: Andrejs Prohorenkovs

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Article: Andrejs Prohorenkovs (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Latvian footballer, member of the all-time greatest Latvian UEFA Euro 2004 squad. Article is in good shape and sourced. Abcmaxx (talk) 06:00, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose the DYK check showed that the page was just over 1,000 characters of prose text, with the stub limit being 1,500. The entire first 20 years of his club career up to age of 37 is one sentence sourced to a database. My discussion here [2] just about proved that WP:ITNQUALITY is whatever two or three people in a discussion deem it to be, but surely this can't be posted unless it passes Wikipedia's stub limit. Unknown Temptation (talk) 17:33, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Ruth Buzzi

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Article: Ruth Buzzi (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Variety
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Thriley (talk) 15:35, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Jill Sobule

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Article: Jill Sobule (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): LiveNow from Fox, BBC, The Guardian
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: An American singer and songwriter known for I Kissed a Girl SurveyMonkey...  10:40, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Ricky Davao

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Article: Ricky Davao (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Global Filipino Magazine, Bombo Radyo Philippines, The Philippine Star
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: A Filipino actor. His filmography needs additional sources. Moraljaya67 (talk) 09:15, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Nana Caymmi

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Article: Nana Caymmi (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [3]
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 ArionStar (talk) 23:34, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

South Korean presidents

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Article: 2025 South Korean presidential election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In South Korea, Prime Minister Han Duck-soo resigns as acting president to run in the 2025 presidential election; as Finance Minister Choi Sang-mok has resigned, Education Minister Lee Ju-ho (pictured) assumes the acting presidency. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ South Korean Prime Minister Han Duck-soo and Finance Minister Choi Sang-mok resign within six hours of each other; Education Minister Lee Ju-ho (pictured) becomes acting president.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Education Minister Lee Ju-ho (pictured) becomes the acting president of South Korea.
News source(s): https://www.koreaherald.com/article/10479096
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Two head of state changes in one day in a turbulent moment for South Korean politics. Ca talk to me! 14:53, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: this is more fall-out from the Yoon impeachment, changing the acting president so candidates can run in the election to be Yoon's permanent replacement. I don't see anywhere in the proposed article that discusses these changes and the blurb is far too long. I won't !vote for now, but I suspect we'd be better off waiting for the election to choose an actual president, rather than changes in the acting head of state. Modest Genius talk 15:38, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Wait for the presidential election in a few weeks time. I've tried to find more English-language media coverage of this, but there's very little available, which already tells us something about the importance. This is a change in an acting position, seemingly as part of the election campaign; no president is taking anything more than caretaker action until after the election on 3 June. We should therefore wait for the winner of the election, and post that. Regardless of whether an acting president does or doesn't count as a head of state for ITNR purposes (which is debatable), we can WP:IAR to get a more sensible outcome. Modest Genius talk 12:32, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    ITNR goes by List of current heads of state and government, which lists the new acting president. Ed [talk] [OMT] 15:56, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately, Lee Ju-ho is still a stub, though it has some more improvements. Natg 19 (talk) 00:38, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose As of right now, this has been the norm in the Republic of Korea, do not see why it would be important to do this, we posted the fall of Damascus and the kicking out of Bashar as president of Syria, and his replacement. That was because of its massive reprecussions on the politics within that nation and around it. Does not mean we should post this. Shaneapickle (talk) 16:25, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Alternatively we can just put the crisis under "Ongoing". Bremps... 16:35, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah that would be a solution Shaneapickle (talk) 12:24, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've struck this oppose as you !voted again below. Ed [talk] [OMT] 15:55, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose/Wait: agree with Modest Genius that we should not post changes to the acting president, and wait to post the winner of the election in June. Natg 19 (talk) 17:32, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Neither of them were elected to the office, and this dosen't seem unexpected. Simply politicians doing politics. The Yoon impeachment was already run as a blurb and I believe his arrest was as well, so this has been well covered. Normalman101 (talk) 18:10, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Never in South Korean history was there a acting x3 president. Lee is now tasked with managing US trade talks, a pretty important decision in my opinion. Ca talk to me! 22:55, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • I would probably wait for now. Also, small mistake. I don't think Choi succeeded him; Choi resigned before Duck-soo did, so Ju-ho straight assumed the presidency. Either way, this can be circled back around to after the election, maybe in a blurb where [X] succeeds acting president Ju-ho (or whoever's in power atp).
River10000 (talk) 19:20, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, thanks for pointing this out. I have changed the misleading sentence. Ca talk to me! 23:02, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Put in Ongoing/Oppose I am opposing per my oppose from earlier, but I agree with @Bremps put this in ongoing as this has blown out into a full political crisis due to a mistake that, by May 4th, will be the official 5 months since this happened, and since this political crisis has been exploded into something bigger, put it in ongoing. Shaneapickle (talk) 12:27, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Its not a good ongoing story as these events are not news on a daily basis. It might be a long-term story due to how long this is taking, but its not new events every day that we expect in Ongoing. Masem (t) 20:31, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Surprised the fact that it was ITN/R was not caught earlier. Ju-ho's article might need to be expanded but the others are fine, I think this can be posted. --SpectralIon 20:12, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    It's not ITN/R. Only permanent leaders would be covered by that, this one is just acting and he'll be replaced in just a month's time after the election, which we'll of course post. We're not going to post every single twist and turn of this saga.  — Amakuru (talk) 23:42, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    We have posted every twist and turn of this saga though, I opposed the arrest of Yoon Suk-yeol and we posted that too. Leader for a month is not too insignificant and the uniqueness of two leaders resigning in succession only contributes to this being postable. SpectralIon 04:19, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reinstating ITR. As opposed to Amakuru's statement, nothing in WP:ITNR#Elections and heads of state and government mentions anything about "permanent leaders" (none of the leaders are "permanent," anyway). Nfitz doesn't even make a direct argument on why it isn't, merely saying these are "interim presidencies", but again, WP:ITNR#Elections and heads of state and government doesn't mention anything of this sort. You can argue WP:IAR, but ITNR designation stays, and the posting admin should be the one judging if IAR argument holds. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Howard the Duck (talkcontribs)
    • This is correct re ITNR, but I will stress that this feels like a situation that IAR definitely applies due to these all being acting roles with an election for a permanent one in the next month or so. Masem (t) 12:00, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I'd implore to people not remove ITNR tags when the blurb actually undisputedly qualifies for it, and just argue WP:IAR if they feel that way. It's bordering on vandalism in having this reverted. You guys (not necessarily you Masem) won't do this on interim PM in European countries. Howard the Duck (talk) 12:11, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • IAR Oppose and wait for the election. The guy was never supposed to stick around for long, and South Korea keeps going through so many presidents that we can't blurb them all. The ITNR listing was clearly not designed for this. QuicoleJR (talk) 19:47, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support as ITNR The article is of sufficient quality and is ITNR per Howard the Duck. IAR is a drastic measure that should only be resorted to in circumstances of last resort or where there is clearly a "gap" in how the ITNR rule was written. Here, it seems reasonable to post this and its within the plain language scope of the rule. Opposes on notability should be discarded within the consensus assessment unless they make a clear case as to why WP:IAR should apply. FlipandFlopped 23:38, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait I earlier opposed this blurb and I still stand by that, however we will blurb the election that is happening in under 1 month so we might as well wait. There is little english-language coverage and we have blurbed this general situation I believe twice, not to mention that we are running 4 election blurbs as of now. This would simply crowd the other blurbs and would have to be updated or (if it fell off) need to be reinstated at the time of the election in June. Normalman101 (talk) 15:28, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I Reviewed the archive for ITN and we have blurbed the declaration of martial law, yoon's impeachment, his arrest, and his removal. Not to mention that when the declaration was lifted the blurb was changed, this has been well covered even as important is it may be and we can easily wait a month. Normalman101 (talk) 18:30, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Charles Were

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Article: Charles Were (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [4]
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Kenyan parliament member shot dead by unknown gunman in Nariobi Editor 5426387 (talk) 15:31, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Manolo el del Bombo

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Article: Manolo el del Bombo (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): RTVE
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Famous Spanish football fan Alexcalamaro (talk) 19:47, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Too short. Bremps... 04:45, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

April 30

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Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

Law and crime

International relations


(Posted) RD: Kari Løvaas

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Article: Kari Løvaas (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): TA
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Norwegian soprano who performed at great houses and festivals of Europe, US, Japan and Australia. Article was basically there, references improved, no good obit yet, the one in Norwegian and paywalled is from 30 April. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:09, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Inah Canabarro Lucas

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Article: Inah Canabarro Lucas (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC Deutsche Welle
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: (Former) oldest living person in the world. Last surviving person born in 1908. There was a mini edit war over whether she had actually died or not, but since sources have come out confirming that she has in fact died, I think we can post this now. Aydoh8[what have I done now?] 14:04, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2025 Israel fires

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Article: 2025 Israel fires (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Israel declares a state of emergency after wildfires erupt in the Jerusalem region. (Post)
News source(s): CNN
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Escalating to be the largest in the country. ArionStar (talk) 05:16, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support due to scale and significant media coverage, as well as arson allegations potentially making it a significant event in the Israel-Palestine conflict. Additionally, it occurred on Israel's remembrence day for fallen soldiers, which is also a day prior to Israel's independence day. It also occurred in the shadow of the first cancellation of the national independence day ceremony in history Someonefighter (talk) 08:57, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Wait When searching "Israel" in the news tab of Google, the top results are still relating to the war in Gaza or even Lebanon. Bremps... 13:16, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose for now - sure, there's coverage, but I have doubts on human impact. Tens of thousands are evacuated every year in Cali, yet we don't post those fires.EF5 (questions?) 13:20, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
California has ~7,000 wildfires a year, you don't hear of them happening in this part of the world very often. Aydoh8[what have I done now?] 14:27, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Aydoh8, there were wildfires in 2010, 2016 and 2021, and probably smaller undetected ones between then. These actually happen pretty often, and given the dense population of Israel they are bound to force evacuations.EF5 (questions?) 14:30, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
These are the biggest fires in Israel's history [5] [6] [7] [8]. It's not every year that there's such massive wildfires (two and a half the area of the one in 2011 [9] [10]) with that many locations Someonefighter (talk) 15:41, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, there was one in 2011 too. Yea, while it may be big (is 12 square miles really that big?) these happen all the time, this one is just bigger than the others. I'll change my mind if anything serious comes of it, i.e. the fire encroaching on a city.EF5 (questions?) 15:49, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough. To me personally "biggest in history" is notable enough Someonefighter (talk) 16:00, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, it could be notable, but not ITN notable. These are also far from the biggest in history - in fact, these are 0.74% (less than a percent!) the size of the August Complex Fire in 2020.EF5 (questions?) 16:17, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oh I meant biggest in Israel's history Someonefighter (talk) 16:25, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Someonefighter, ah. Eh, while I get your point, "biggest" doesn't mean "ITN-able".EF5 (questions?) 17:40, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose as both common to area, and this may have been tied to the Gaza conflict (tied to Hamas or palesteins that set them) Masem (t) 15:37, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thus far, this is speculation. Israel has had wildfires before. Bremps... 16:16, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The fires aren't yet at the scale of impact to merit posting. Most of the coverage when you google "Israel news" is still focused on civilian deaths in Gaza - to relegate coverage of those killings to our "ongoing" item, while simultaneously allotting an entire blurb to some largely inconsequential fires that have not killed anyone (yet) and are at most an inconvenience to Israelis, creates WP:UNDUE concerns. FlipandFlopped 16:24, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment/Soft Support Israel has declared a state of emergency as of now, also searching "Israel" seems to be giving several stories on the topic before news on the war in gaza. This is all coming alongside Netanyahu stating that several have been arrested in connection with arson causing the fires (whether this is true or not) and Hamas speaking on their alledged participation, making this a much larger event then just a random wildfire. Plus it is occuring near the very internationally important city of Israel. Normalman101 (talk) 18:41, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

April 29

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Armed conflicts and attacks

Business and economy

Disasters and accidents

Law and crime

Politics and elections


(Attention needed) RD: Christfried Schmidt

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Article: Christfried Schmidt (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): FAZ
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: German composer who wasn't wanted under the GDR regime and neglected after reunification but whose expressive works still get discovered, St Mark's Passion in 2019. Article was there, translated from de, but both sourced better and expanded. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:47, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Attention Needed) RD: Samuel Escobar

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Article: Samuel Escobar (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Christianity Today
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Peruvian theologian, article in OK shape but it will need a little bit of touch up before it's ready. ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 01:55, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Roy Cooper (rodeo cowboy)

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Article: Roy Cooper (rodeo cowboy) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://tribune.com.pk/story/2543237/rodeo-icon-super-looper-roy-cooper-dies-in-tragic-house-fire-at-69
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American cowboy. Article looks good. Onegreatjoke (talk) 00:12, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: David Horowitz

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Article: David Horowitz (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Fox News
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Thriley (talk) 09:18, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support Was just reading about his vast conservative/far-right/Islamophobic/racialist online media network a few days ago, comes as a shock (did not know he was in his 80s). Prominent left to far-right convert, the article looks in good shape. Gotitbro (talk) 14:49, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support Article is of sufficient quality for ITN. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 02:51, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Would be great if we can get ISBNs for the listed books he wrote. – robertsky (talk) 10:56, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Mike Peters (musician)

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Article: Mike Peters (musician) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Billboard, BBC
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Lead singer of The Alarm240F:7A:6253:1:BDA3:4DC1:1DBB:6B2A (talk) 03:59, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Too many stringy paragraphs. Bremps... 17:26, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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